Gary Hodge
Interview San Francisco, 13. Mai 2008
Gary Hodge alias Hiloboy, Native Amercian des Yurok Tribe, berichtet über das Joggen auf der Brücke. Er ist - wie Bense beim Brückengang - 60 Jahre alt, läuft aber mit einer erkennbar anderen Haltung. Gary besetzte am 20. November 1969 mit anderen Indians of All Tribes die Gefängnisinsel Alcatraz in direkter Sichtweite der Brücke.
Als Animist geht er von der Beseelung aller Gegenstände aus. Eine Weltsicht also, die man als nicht-analytischen Vorläufer der kartesischen Naturwissenschaften sehen kann 
Hiloboy auf Youtube
Gary Hodge bei der Besetzung von Alcatraz (1969) und beim Joggen über die Golden Gate Bridge (2008)
How often are you jogging across the Golden Gate Bridge?
I run over it 12 times a year. Once every month, but I'm behind schedule. This is my first time this year.
How do you feel on it?
''Every time you go over that bridge it is a different experience. That bridge has a spirit, it's alive. And it makes you strong. The first time that I`ve crossed it I was nine years old and I remember it very well. I'm 60 years old now, so I've been across that bridge a lot.
You say it's alive. So it's changing all the time?
It's always moving. That bridge goes 15 meters in both directions. I've been on it. I came across when it was going like that (moves his hands)... wow ... but it's gonna stay. And it´s also a beautiful thing.
The bridge is like a huge instrument.
Yes, it's alive. Everything is alive. You know, the plants, the birds, the water, all experiences.
How do you experience the vibrations on the bridge?
You feel it. And it's just like when you going through life. You feel the vibrations of life. When I was jogging across today I filmed myself. And I felt myself becoming stronger from the experience. I'm a native American from the Yurok Nation, it's 300 miles up the coast. I was raised there and I was talked the old way and that's all about experiencing the energies that all Native American tribes have been here 10.000, 30.000 years. That's all still with us and that`s why we are spiritual. That bridge has a spirit. And when people can feel that and understand it they can feel everything. Instead of going scared they say: Yes, I'm approaching where I came from.
Where does the spirit of the bridge come from?
It comes from everything that mother earth gives to it. The vibrations. It comes from those men that build it. Their energy is still there. It comes through everybody that comes across here. It's a focus. Anything that people focus on emmits energy. And that's everything. San Francisco, the view. I live in Sausalito. I jog to Sausalito everyday and when I see something that's different I seek it. I search the energy of it and absorb a little bit of it and I become more of a being that understands what we can't see but we will experience.
What are you thinking about if you are jogging across that bridge? How does your own body movement and rhythm of walking correspond with the spirit of the bridge?
Well, it's like the wind. You have to go with the flow over that. The people in and out. You have to experience many things and travel many circles to understand what you are really all about. And what we are truly about is waking up that 90 percent of our mind, our intellect is our spirit of the soul. And the Native Americans are all intellect. They tight into creator. They were here to flow with mother earth. They were here to take from and destroy it.
But it's an artificial object, it's a technical construction. So it's something like opposite to nature.
It's from nature though. Everything is alive. I stated that in the beginning. The trees are alive. They cut down the magnificent trees. The great whales in the oceans are all alive. They hunted them for years. Pull them up on a boat. It's disharmony.
You are wearing earphones. Why don't you listen to the natural sound?
I do. I listen Native American music once. Drums and singing. I listen to that island out of there, Alcatraz. I'm one of the Native Americans who with the gras roots of taking that island over back in 1969. So everything is of energy. All people have an inner strength. But they don't know how to bring it out. Native Americans have been practiced it forever. And that's called spiritually.